),i didnt receive ur answer in my email 2. Thank you! dont any one do their home work before u travel?????? Hey! As long as she follows those rules, I think shell be fine on her re-entry. I already in my country now, Im came back through Dsseldorf, the immigration only asking why I overstayed and I gave all the papers for proofing of the timeline what I have done, because in Dutch they didnt understand, they just ask me to explain, after I explained everything they let me go. My question is, If I have my renewed Passport, can I use my Schengen visa which was stamped from my old passport? I really need your advice! When I first booked our tickets, I understood that it as 90 in each country, so this puts us entering France on June 13 and leaving from Italy on Sept 28. You cannot stay longer than your visa, so saying you have no option is basically not minding the consequences of never being let back into Europe in the future if they catch you. Do you think that was the reason of the refusal? If youve had to apply for a visa and given biometric details, you are more on record than someone with a visa-free citizenship (ie: Australian, Canadian, Peruvian, etc). Should I cancel my trip? Now she has to return to Moscow but we are afraid of what might happen. So they fine me 110 and asked me where u now came. I am currently in the process of renewing the visa with a lawyer in Spain but didnt have time to get an authorization of return before I left. The French one was even a business tourist visa because my company has an office there, but it was still denied. At the airport i was really scared of being banned from returning to the beloved country. Millions of people travel to Europe each year, whether it be on business, curiosity, adventure, rebellion or leisure; we all make it there at one point in our lives. Do you have any of this in writing with them saying appointment dates? Hey! I am currently living in Germany with my girlfriend. You wouldnt have trouble traveling within Schengen unless there was a reinforced border check, which France actually might have until April 30th, but that is only if you re-enter France. Its very possible that I could returning on a spousal visa. Immigration Law in the United States of America, Immigration to the United States of America. I noticed you mentioned your job in Spain? Don't do it. It will be the same process from home anyway. I will fly back to the US from Barcelona. But you do not have to return to the USA right away. For example, if I overstay in Spain by 5 days and then fly out (and dont get caught) to Morocco why would Morocco detain me? Are you able to take the exam early? I would like to travel to Israel for a week for leaving June 6, 1 day before my 180 day reset. The man was not very nice with me and told me that i wasnt alowwed back into spain for 5 years! The EU has issued some general advice on this, encouraging member states to grant visa extensions where necessary and to waive sanctions on people who have overstayed due to travel restrictions. 4 months is too long to be considered a mistake. He wouldnt go to jail, but being fined or banned is the risk everyone takes for overstaying. Its really weird they dont have stricter rules with all the talk about immigration there . However, when you reapply for a new visa, the immigration board that processes your next visa will see you have overstayed, and this may mean your next visa will be denied. It is possible that the officer wrote something down without your knowledge, but no need to jump the gun on that. The number is +91 11 2687-36-61 or email consul@embassyofserbiadelhi.net.in. We dont want our planned next year summer visit to Germany to be jeopardized as well (visa denial etc). Some advice, go to a male guard if you can , Hi Lindsay, Back in 2014/15 I got visa for a short trip to Italy ( although that was my second time or my second visa to Italy). Usually when your visa is processing youre either not allowed to enter the country or leave the country. But I did a few searches anyway and felt it was an issue. Mitch, Hey Mitch so you overstayed your tourist visa in Schengen? Thank you!! I came to Iceland on my 3 month Schengen allowance (and right before my 90 days were up, I received my residence permit approval. Discover what happens when UK nationals overstay the 90 day rule in Spain and go through passport control on the way back to the UK. Dont take the risk its really not worth an extra 18 days and potentially your future visa in Europe. Thinking to leave through Spain, spend my 90 days out, finalize the divorce, come back, and marry a friend. The Spanish embassy then cancelled my application saying the background check had taken too long, and refused my second application although I had all of the correct documents. I am not sure if this applies, but Ill shoot my comment out there. This would pretty much include all other Schengen countries since they put this in SIS. Right now there are a lot of issues with immigration in Europe, so agents are quick to assume. Hi Victoria! I have a question to which you may or may not know the answer. This is true, which is why so many people escape. Itd be helpful to have this documents when speaking to uninformed immigration officials at the border. I really appreciate your advice! Im a Canadian planning on au pairing in Spain. My question is this: I am a doctoral student, and my stays in Greece have been to conduct research and do volunteer work in conjunction with that, so my biggest concern is what problems I am likeliest to encounter on future trips, because these trips involve my dissertation research. I have a difficult situation, I hope you can give me some advice. Thanks so much for the kind words! (Got married and have 2 kids) I was so scared to meet the police officer at the security checkpoint cus I read all the Schengen visa rules. Since passports are scanned on entry and exit to the EU, overstaying is easily detected. I originally thought your 90/180 days reset every 180 days, so I was under the impression I wouldnt be overstaying. Since 2015 I never applied for schengen visa although I have been travelling to China and so on but not to any Schengen suburbs. A few years ago a man posted on this subject. I am a resident of hamburg and I sponsored my mother in law to enter Germany for 90 days. I recommend leaving from Portugal. (it is not an european country) So, I am not really sure if what you did at the immigration office would have granted you a SSN. Stay safe. Abide by it or face the consequences. Best wishes, Hey, I have a very similar story to yours. You are correct about your mistake with re-entering Germany (or any other Schengen country you have not cleared for your bilateral). I first traveled here in May from 8-16 returned to the states, then traveled back on June 4-14. He also asked me what is the reason to stay that long. But that ONLY applies to Poland/USA. My only tip is to enter Europe after your 90 days outside have passed Try Portugal. I plan to have my work contract with dates as well as some other receipts from Austria in case they stop me, but I was just unclear on if I was allowed the tourist visa after my type D expires. Travellers from a non-EU country arriving in the EU can only stay for a certain period of time without a visa. Or do you think I could have a low chance of getting caught. I love Germany very much and dont really want to leave, but if Im understanding everything.. my time is up in a few days I dont want to jeopardize not being able to live here in the future. My flight takes me to Sweeden first and then to Amsterdam. If you have further questions, feel free to reach out more! You will run into a lot of problems if you are caught working illegally because then you are messing with the governments taxes. Work permit under process anyway, i ended up speaking with the Hungarian Embassy in London and they, like you, said i had no problem leaving Hungary after 4 months of stay but it is still unknown what the correct procedure is for an eu citizen staying there longer than 90 days, at least just as a tourist anyway!! So my question is, would it be possible to do that? My question: how long should I stay out of Schengen now? I was lucky because he didnt asked me to pay the overstay fines and he explained to me that my understanding is wrong. Hey John! It is a good thing that border control never said anything to you when you left, but they might have it on record of the entry and exits which could cause an issue when your family tries to re-apply for a short stay tourist schengen visa. Once your type D visa (student) has expired, the EU rules do give you a right to stay for another 3 months following the expiry of your type D visa in other Schengen countries provided you have not traveled to another Schengen country in the previous 6 months. They could still deny the visa if they feel like this was a serious issue but you can always appeal it and explain what happened and that you have payed the fine. From the day it stops, you need to be OUT for 90 days before you come back IN. This is the standard length (for example in case of an overstay of more than 3 months) i wanna ask is it possible for me to travel around schengen country (not going outside border) when my visa is already expired? Next they are going to Paris/France and leaving it on the 90th day of their visa. I began planning my trip to return for graduation based upon the thinking that with my Irish citizenship, I would no longer have a problem staying more than 90 days in the Schengen zone. My Permit of Stay for Italy is also valid until 13th May. Alas, the stress begins! Hey Leia! She said no one at the Lisbon airport asked to see her passport, she just breezed on through, no stamp/scan or anything. If you are not subject to a visa requirement you can stay in the Schengen area during your visa-free stay. Just be calm and cool, and make sure you stay out of Shengen for the following 92 days (the added 2 days to make it even). Americans can stay 6 months in UK as a tourist. Since you have overstayed, I still would be cautious because it really is up to the border guard on if they choose to proceed with punishment for overstaying, or just looking the other way. If you have stayed over the 90 days, unfortunately you are accepting what could happen to you which is being barred from returning for some time on your exit. Because if you say to a border guard I couldnt leave due to Corona and the boarder guard said Why not, there were flights available for expats to leave then youre in a pickle. Working illegally, however, is another issue. I've read about people in Germany being thrown in jail (this sounds far-fetched to me) and about passports having ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT scrawled on every page in red marker by an angry immigration official, who makes a BAN THIS PERSON FOR LIFE note on your SIS record. I am flying from Helsinki to Oslo. I feel like there are not enough people sharing their stories of being caught! We would like to get married however the issue is that my Spanish Visa has expired. Were you caught overstaying? I suggest trying your best to get home to your country because if they wont give you a visa while youre in the country and you try to stay anyway your only choice is hiring an expensive lawyer to try and fight your way around visa laws, which everyone is subjected to. Direct flights are available from Madrid to many major US cities for ~$1100-1500. You definitly cannot live in Spain on a German visa, just like people from other countries cannot just pick up and move to the U.S. without paper work. The FCDO is not able to comment on Spanish immigration policy. I and my fiancee want to get married in Germany. WebThe amount of Fine for overstaying visa in Turkey applied on the foreigner varies from one foreigner to another according to his citizenship, the cause of his overstay. ANY advise. Therefore, Portugal can issue you the fine if they catch this error in your stay. Hey Jay! I will not be returning to the Schengen area until our wedding which will be in Italy in July 2019. However, it will not go past 1200 euro. Im currently in my last month of my doctorate in Iceland, and Im originally from the US (been living in Iceland on a student visa for almost three years). Despite their differences, in general, the Member States apply the following penalties on those caught overstaying, including on Britons starting from this year: Also, they can actually deny you entry after you have flown into Europe. However, the date is the only part of the stamp which is truly legible. Thank you very much. The question is: can I go to Bulgaria or another non schengen area country in E.U? So it really is a 50/50 toss up as to whats gonna happen. However, you should probably contact your student abroad center or even the American consulate for an exact answer. My main objective is for a German university to accept me. Only when you exit to a non-Schengen. I am a US citizen who overstayed my tourist visa in Spain. But, they are only in UK for 6 days (due to money and a job falling through there) and are going to try and get back into Lisbon to see their defacto partner again and a couple of weeks later they have finally got their VISA interview with the officials in Portugal to make an application for a longer stay visa for Portugal. Hey Alexandra! Just thinking you will find work when you get there isn't a good idea. This can be levied along with other penalties and the amount But of the 32 topics that Sally has started, 6 of them have been about Schengen and visa issues. But as last years Spanish state bulletin dealing with overstays of third-country nationals did give them a further three months grace period during the state of alarm in 2020, there is less reason to think that any of these penalties should be applicable if reasonable and justified reasons are given for not sticking to the deadline ie. So he decided to go for a year more extension which is fine if you are able to show what stopped you from completing the studies in written. I did a bit of research on your situation. Im an American who has been living in Spain for the past year and a half on a student visa. Good question! Im an american currently studying in Spain on a 6 month visa that began Sept. 19, 2017. we are just not sure what will happen with my overstayed past. Especially since work visas can take a couple months to process, you absolutely cannot be in Schengen on a tourist visa while this is processing because you are not immune to being deported if youre caught. Stay date: 22.03.19 to 31.04.19 40Days When it comes to border control and the police agents (yes, they are the police!) I think you will be fine, though. Wrong on both counts, obviously! Happy travels! My position now is in Indonesia. For those curious NIE is the tax number in Spain so my question is when did your student visa expire? For non-EU nationals like Americans and Australians, Spain has earned itself a reputation for being not too fussy about the exact exit date of people who arent working or claiming benefits in Spain as long as its fairly close. Besides, I am not willing to pay the fine which is ridiculous(lets say 300 or more) as I dont have that amount of money. So basically, you should have left 90 days ago. Can you answer my question? Which country has the most powerful passport in 2023. Or will they fine me upon arrival? Of course you can try to hire an immigration lawyer, but I am not sure how that will effect the outcome. You need to provide all your paperwork for your return flights, so if they see the visa and the flight dates dont match up, then they will make a decision in letting you in or not. Can I just ring up any American embassy or consulate in any other country to ask about this? i have a long term us visa. Technically, what you should do is leave Schengen through Italy or something (if you have an entrance stamp from Spain, you could get questioned if you also exit from Spainshowcasing in full glory your time spent in that country), and not return to any Schengen country for at least another 90 days after your exit. Not to entire only poland !! I am not sure, whether I can leave Spain with getting stopped at Barcelona Airport or getting fine. I dont know what to do. Ie: You enter Iceland in March & wait 20 days for your visa to be approved. Hi Lily! a student in Germany. If you continue to use this website without changing your cookie settings or you click "Accept" below then you are consenting to this. Germany saw support for leaving the EU fall by 3.8 percentage points, in Sweden the potential leave vote fell by 5.2 percentage points and Spain saw a drop of 4.7 percentage points. Thats a good point about visa applications. You should NOT say couple of days are fine when existing, NO it is not fine at all. But, i was wrong and i got stopped by Immigration officer. Serious offenses are punishable by a fine ranging from 501 to 10,000 euros. You shouldnt have an issue inviting your wife to get a visitors visa. As others have already said, thank you for all the help you lend to those in need of some nerve-calming or extra information! Wow, thanks for the quick reply! Thanks for writing in. My suggestion here would be to stop work and leave the country and then apply for a new visa once outside of Schengen. Hey Matthew if you can avoid overstaying, you should. I am a U.S. citizen currently traveling in the Netherlands. Or will I be denied the student visa because Ive overstayed my tourist visa? My American friend has overstayed a Spanish tourist visa by 9 months. he got a good paying job now so we know that we meet all the requirements. Hey Gabriel, thanks for stopping by! Thanks! My flight to Greece is on the 15th of this month and my return flight to Barcelona is on the 21st. Meaning I can travel in Spain for up to 3 months in a 6 month period, regardless to time spent in other shengen countries. Im wondering whats the best option for me? However, if you are not caught, staying out 90 days would help for re-entry. You should be fine! Am I allowed to stay past the 90 day mark while waiting for my student visa? Thanks for writing in. Americans can stay in the Schengen Area for a maximum of 90 days within a 180-day period without requiring a visa. Hi Bailey, thanks for writing in! It could count against you if the countrys immigration board sees you had broken rules of your prior visa. I also noticed there is not even an exit stamp on my passport. After that I came back home without further issues, but Im planning to visit Germany by the end of July or the beginning of August. I have a question Im hoping you can help shed some light on. So my fiance is thinking that that sounds like an ok option but it sounds awful to me; I run a business and have clients in Europe and want everything to be on the up-and-up, not trying to hide and lay low for three years (which is why youd think Id have researched things beforehand!). We are panicking as we dont know what to do. Must I still pay the fine if I use them? I am sure it was not deliberate, but she will need to provide proof the company had said they would handle it. Hello Lindsey, Sorry for the late response. I travelled 2 days before my visa expiry date and overstayed by 3 days. Now we are in the situation that he has already overstayed by around 10 days and my 90 days expires tomorrow. I fly from Madrid to Dublin to NY and then I have a returning ticket from NY to Dublin to Madrid. I had a problem last year, I accidentally overstayed in germany 4 days (with a visa student) because my flight was changed. Hello! 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