For anyone looking to move to LA for a job, you really, really have to think hard about where youll be living in relation to where this job is. I started biking to and from work because it took me 30 mins regardless of what trafficwas . I would rather sit in traffic because I want to see someone than be obligated to endure the stress on a daily basis. Feb 7 2021 1 hr 1 min. I dont have any advice but you have my deepest sympathy. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I now live in the Philadelphia area and my last job was an hour commute either 44 miles on the turnpike or 26 miles in stop-and-go city traffic. Or you could make a post on the Los Angeles subreddit; theres someone there that could build you an ebike for ~$2000. With my next job, my commute was only 30 minutes on a highway with very little traffic, and it was SO much better. Yeah, I already made up my mind Im leaving. My hours are definitely not flexible (ideally Id be working 7 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. I absolutely cannot leave after 4 p.m. without hitting a majorly clogged highway any highway that leads out of where I work) and my boss likes to come in/stay late. It costs you weekends when you dont go out and do much because youre so tired and just want to stay out of the car for once. One hour one way (two hours both ways, on a good day) has taken its toll, and I cant imagine how bad it can feel if you are taking on a two hour commute. Brutal. This post gave my traumatic flashbacks. You *could* get an electric car with the carpool lane sticker and take it when youre rising solo, but Im pretty sure those expire this year. An excellent point! Yeaaaa id say a 30 mile by car commute is risky no matter where you live, especially if its a major city and ESPECIALLY if its somewhere like LA. That aside though, if both you and the guy work in LA, why not just move there? (Houston area btw). I live in SW CT so the only reason my drive is doable is because I stay off (and away from) 95. 30 miles seems like a long commute distance-wise for the LA area, but 2 hours is what I would expect that to take during rush hour. Its common for people to have to pull over and knock to offer reimbursement for hitting a chicken/guinea hen/something else. was I wrong to be put off by interviewing on Bring Your Kids to Work Day? I grew up in the Inland Empire and for a while commuted to my job in South LA, ~40 miles. Ive only done a 2 hr commute when I had an end in sight (I was living at home during an internship to save money, and the second time I was looking for an apartment so I was again living at home). Anyway, just wanted to wish you the best! Theres a reason, despite improved public transportation, we love our cars. :(. You now go 30 miles, 5x further. I have been working at home for over 5 years now and cannot imagine going back to a job I had to commute to. (The other big difference is that NYC is built on ground well suited to subways, where LA is built on geologically unstable, wet sand. Agreed. I dont know how people drive standards here ;). 30 miles of doom and gloom of 90 to Aurora, no good. Same distance, 90 minutes less. Wow. I did my research but they interviewed me Thursday, offer on Friday and first day Monday they needed someone urgently and I wasnt working so there was no way for me to check the commute during rush hour. Do you have a backup plan in case you are just too tired to drive home safely some night? Honestly, long commutes are the reason why I refuse to look at jobs off public transit or outside the city. Id just say that you should see if you can find a new job before you quit. LA traffic is just brutal. I find driving FAR more stressful than the trains, and would probably take a one-hour train ride where I feel like my time is my own over dealing with NJ drivers for 20 minutes. But what counts as the Bay Area is also constantly expanding to include farther flung cities in the Central Valley, North Bay, and South Bay. We looked at some houses that would make my commute 45-60 minutes and keep my husbands average about the same or a little longer, and although we really liked them, we had to pass. The return trip is about 45 minutes if I leave before 5:00 and an hour if I leave after. LA does have notoriously horrible commutes, but two hours one way sounds ridiculous even for LA (although apparently not unheard of). And because public transit is sparse, the region broad, and the population dense, you have more cars on the road than the infrastructure can really handle. I work in the East Bay, and people in my office commute from Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. Do you feel watched? I did that length of a commute for about a year when I lived there. I listen to audio books that are young adult novels so its harder in my case to lose track. But if I had to commute to West Hollywood (~ 6 miles), it could easily take 45-90 minutes. Before I moved to LA, [Official Local Representatives] swore to me that the traffic was exaggerated and every place was accessible by public transport. Were not even talking about using any freeways here that would be even longer. Everyone is different and your sanity should not be taken up by a commute if it does drive you crazy. What youve described is pretty much my husbands schedule. They just need to step up their game on safety. As youve found out a 30 mi commute has a HUGE range of times it actually takes. The answer to all this is to move to DUBAI. As for Cali traffic, I experienced it when I went there for a business trip a couple years ago. Swore would never do commute into London again! I have TAP cards for both LA and San Diego, and I live in Orange County. Like others have already said you have to do whats best for you and what you can tolerate. For reference that will easily take you from Tucson to Phoenix. That's train, tube, walk and drive to the station. After living in a different part of Country California where my commute was 75-90 min each way, then New England where it was 25 min., I was not going to go back to a long commute. That's why our strongest recommendation is to make the time to commute, even when you are working at home. I had to do a 50 mile 1 way commute during a couple of limited stints a little over a decade ago (both from my moms once was for a 6 month internship; the second time was for about 2 months when I was between housing in grad school), and those commutes ended up being 1-1.5 hours, depending on traffic. Im in DFW, and on off-peak hours, its 35 mins from home to work. I walk 1.5 miles to BART instead of taking the muni 4 blocks from my house. My $5 raise from my nyc job is just gas money. I used to have a mental picture of him saying the hell with this traffic and just commuting by helicopter. Only you'll know but it really doesn't seem that bad. I use The Woodlands Express and i always get home in an hour or less! I always walk him before I leave and immediately when I get home. All this to say, the options really are moving closer to your work, or finding a new job closer to where you live. 30 miles is very far for LA commuters. By car it still takes an average of 35-45 minutes. Good luck! I feel lame for being so picky, but thats a LOT of time out of your life! The same commute by public transit would have been 1.5-2 hours (with a transfer) minimum. I wouldnt do it. I commute 50mins each way by bike but I feel cycling is somehow less frustrating / or tolerable than driving. I hate left turns, and theres only one to turn onto the freeway entrance ramp, and its pretty low traffic right there.). It was a cost of living/housing/real estate thing at the time. I live/work in northern VA (just south of DC), and traffic is notoriously bad here, as well, though not as bad as in LA. That is normal for L.A., I am sorry to say! This was a guaranteed 2 hours each way (45 mins on the train +11 miles of biking) but at least I got to tune out for the train ride for a bit. I lived about 8 miles away from work, and it routinely took me 30-40 minutes to get to work, depending on the traffic. If its an option to exit, Id go for a longer way around just to keep from sitting it traffic for 2 hours. :(. needs and desires, not really about whats normal. Its why I came back the one time I moved away. THAT SAID, that doesnt mean you have to live with it. Unsustainable is a great word, Countess. Im a slight woman, Asian, in my mid twenties and took the train from LB to DTLA for work. Meaning that a small problem of some kind can bump travel time way, way up and you never know. 2. the difficulty of my academic program, which meant I was putting in a trying day, then driving home to face more hours of school work, versus my life now, where I drive home towards just being happy and lazy. I was actually on the El, just so far up the line that my commute was probably longer than some people taking the Matra. This one doesnt sound like it is. At 545AM, Amin Aljunied's alarm clock rings. I did try another of her series by audiobook though and really enjoyed it Indexing. I think thats on the long side even for LA. If I left after 4 it was definitely going to take at least 2-3 hours. My commute from West LA to downtown LA is about 25-45 min (its somewhat a reverse commute), which seems about average when talking with other friends. I had a commute once that varied from 1-2 hours that I had to drive because I lived too far from the train, and it was so draining that I make all of my work/housing decisions based on public transit now. Normal rush hour traffic here is apparently about 45 minutes for 15 miles, but its easier to avoid the peak and I got into work in about 15 minutes today. The #1 subreddit for Brits and non-Brits to ask questions about life and culture in the United Kingdom. So Cal native yup, 2 hours can be totally normal. He said as long as he was on the train the commute flew by and they had a great quality of life in PA. People commute 2 hours *within New York* if they cant move and need to keep a particular job. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, Link is in moderation, but the article is called California Today: The Rise of the Super Commuter. Prosecutors say Fratta organized the murder-for . Long commutes come with the booming economy & the sunshine. 2+ hour commutes are not OK for a lot of people and you sound like you are one of them. Although, when I did commute on public transit the trains were messed up about 80% of the time, which was very frustrating (South West Trains! 8.67 miles/hour. Time is valuable, and spending it commuting sucks. Most of my coworkers that live on the North/South Shore of Boston commute around that far. One more option Commuter Express buses! (I mean, you can also take the Sepulveda pass but nobody does). A few of my senior bankers have 90-minute one-way commutes, and I just don't understand why people go through that. if I was lucky and there wasnt an accident on the road. Yeah, unfortunately as an EA with two very needy execs theres no way I could do 7 am to 3:30 pm.. anything thats not those times will still have me sitting in 2 hour traffic every day. And its not unusual for our area, but I understand why some folks would try desperately to avoid it. I could tell so many stories about the times where out-of-towners (friends, relatives, etc) think I can get them from Silverlake to the coast in 30 mins because it doesnt look that far on Google Maps!. LB to Weho sounds terrible. Its always a tradeoff because of housing prices near the good job centers. But 5 hours in the car AND an (at least) eight hour work day? I wont leave SoCal again til I shuffle off this mortal coil. I, too, went to be by 9 and woke up at 5 left at 6:20 or so and got home around 7 or later. Can you take public transit part of the way (I know thats a long shot in LA)? I also lived uptown and usually got a seat, so YMMV.). My old commute was 12 miles and it took 30 minutes, and my current one is 9 miles and it takes 35 minutes. I frequently have to do a 90 minute one way commute to work. An entire day! Ive had a long-ish commute (45min to 1 hr) for years and finally discovered the joy of audiobooks about 6 months ago (as a lifelong bibliophile, I dont know what took me so long). Im willing to exchange a longer commute for the ability to live at home the way I want to. It is doable for me, and Im not driving that entire time. Thank you so much for posting my question, Alison. That long of a commute isnt worth your sanity. This sounds about right for LA traffic. The trains are generally safe, but they are still public transportation. Even if no one else is doing, for example, a 1/2 hour commute by train, she should do it if it works for her. In 1990. Granted my commute is about an hour each way, but I spend none of that actually behind the wheel of a car so I could spend it doing any number of useful and/or interesting things so I dont mind it so much. I commute from NoVa to DC; the drive is 25 miles and takes 60 to 90 minutes. That was a trade off I was willing to take. If Im going back for the weekend, I have to leave before 2 pm or after 8 pm, otherwise theres tons of traffic in Modesto all the way down to San Jose. My (Seattle) commute is about 25 minutes of bus and walking. The audiobook I am listening to right now is pretty good A Plague of Giants, the first book in Kevin Hearnes new high fantasy series. Taking the train or local Staten Island bus, to the Staten Island ferry, to the Manhattan subway, could easily take two hours from south-shore Staten Island to midtown Manhattan if a subway was delayed or the ferry was running a modified schedule. And if you paid extra for the express bus, and there was an accident jamming up one of the highways or bridges it literally could take shorter to fly from JFK to Florida than to travel 15 or so miles from Staten Island to Manhattan. I do think its more about what works for you than what the norm in your region is. I cant tolerate a life where I live 90 minutes from the things I like and/or need to get to. It sucks and its not great, but it sounds like the boyfriend is saying this is pretty much a problem no matter what job she has. If he doesnt know any different, it wont seem that bad. I drive 1.5 hours each way every day for work so 2 hours once a week would be great for me. I live in a tiny town so my commute is 5 minutes driving (allow 10 minutes door-to-door). I finally settled into my long-term job with an hour commute each way and its a breeze to me. I was born and raised just outside of Toronto and with the exception of a 3 year stint working in Los Angeles I have lived here my whole life. :(. If you give more specifics about where youre at I might be able to recommend areas that make sense to job hunt! There is one (1) single freeway to get from the east side to the west side. Ive moved around quite a bit within my city with commutes ranging anywhere from 30 seconds (lived in the same building my office was in) to 45 minutes. Best day scenario for a friend of mine is 1.5 hours Concord to downtown. Due to the fragmented nature of public transit in the Bay Area, and the fact that Caltrain runs only once an hour, and the last mile issue, public transit is not much better and indeed could be worse. Coming home is a lot worse. Good weather, goodish food, non-crazy commutes, relatively low housing prices and good jobs available. Im on the east coast. I wouldnt recommend the Blue Line to anyone, not if they had other alternatives. what if it breaks down? of course I have insurance but my car runs fine, and I hate knowing Im putting so many miles on it daily. I live in Silicon Valley. I live and work in different parts of LA than you do, but I and my husband have both had some really awful commutes since weve moved out here. Oh I guess you mean if you have columns of LA vs NYC, not Pros and Cons.. Thats not being special snowflake, thats being realistic about your limitations. *scratching LA off the list of cities I could move to*.

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